Hello, 

Just a quick note to say I am very excited about Tate Triennial coming up in Feb. called Altermodern curated by Nicolas Bourriaud if anyone else is interested your welcome to come say with me. He claims to be showing the end of Post-Modernism and the start of something else, this claim sounds like an odd one to need to make so clean cut but the artists in the show are working  really interestingly by the sounds of things. 

You all missed a fab. show at the Hayward on Andy Warhol showed him in a whole new light. So dont miss this one. 

Hope to see some of you. xxxx

Hello everyone hope your all well. I am updating the website at the moment and would like to list books you are reading or that have made an impact on your practice about five I think would be good as soon as posable please. 

Also could you let me know if there are any projects going on within the group so i can put them in the news part.  If you would like to make amendments to your profiles or would like to add links to your website please also let me know.  

Thank you

Chloe 

Goldsmiths magazine article with article this time.

A WINTER STORY

SHUNT, 15 TO 18 OCTOBER ,LONDON,UK

                              winterstory.org 

Deep in the tunnels under London Bridge Station, a select group of young creative people, working in a variety of fields set out in an adventurous artistic laboratory.  The group consists of a mix of nationalities (English, Greek, French, German, Dutch, Norwegian, Swedish) working in collaboration, to create a critical intensity and develop a common language. The collective group’s whole name is ‘A winter story in the wild jungle hotpot milk between shallow apples’. The title is not meant to be literal.  It’s meant to give nothing away and be hard to remember. The opposite effect of normal advertising. The shunt was a perfect trajectory for the ‘winter story’ to come together as it’s a space that engulfs you for the evening, takes away the line between the art and the viewer and encourages a whole evening of interaction with the works.

Working in disciplines such as artists, architect, critics, curators and musicians enabled us to create an atmosphere in the shunt that played with a large spectrum of your senses and emotions in a diverse way.  For example in one (very large) room you had a collaboration between Sarah Trouche a performance artist and Benjamin Herr an architect in which he had built a landscape of shoes/ plinths designed to be stood on in positions the body would not normally hold therefore changing the architecture of the body. Through out the performance, gravity was experimented with by the duration of the time.  This was located next to a peace by Hanna Husberg, artist, and Dere Gum, architect, in which they artificially bread plankton that took on the most fantastic green colour. Also in this room was a peace called Shrouded by Olan, artist, where she worked with Guillaume Paris to combine the fabric with the imprint of her blood after plastic sugary, which, visually kept the form of a face. This was then blended with the image of a religious fabric and animated so that the fabric appeared to be blowing, and the face would mutate simultaneously.  Without the diverse range of interests and skills working together it would not have been possible to create such a strong impact one room. You were made to think of science, nature, growth, structure, movement, body, pain, violence, beauty, technology to feel safe, calm, threatened and confused in a seductive way. Without imposing any specific views on the chosen criticalities. We started with no objective of what as a group we wanted to achieve; nothing was tied down. Everything remained ephemeral encouraging the widest array of subjectivities.

I can’t go into details of every project however much I would like to there was just so much energy and fiction in the space. There were plaster blocks falling from the ceiling, Security demonstration of useless protective structures, French piggy back tours, silent tours, trips through the ‘rain’ sheltered by a man with umbrella. Plus so much more.

Without introducing any particular themes or direction lines, we have previously worked together and created workshops and shows in France and in England. Play, adventure and spontaneity were very important to the project for the artists still getting to know one and other and for the audience to create accessibility for the viewer. The play was kept by the experimental and openness to mistakes and new direction. We entered the space on the Monday morning with very loose ideas of what we wanted to do and opened the show on Wednesday with unfinished works, we wanted to open our processes to the public and let them transgress, not just impose our vision on the space.

We are having a catalogue printed, which will log the progress of the works and help us reflect on what was created. For details on future happenings or to find out more visit www.winterstory.org.

Artists Interpretation of Winter Story Laboratory from the perspective of a participant

Underneath London Bridge Station. I am looking for a small wooden door, the first step of a unique experience of the winter story show at the shunt

I am in, it’s difficult to breath there, humid, dark and strange

I don’t really know what I expect, an Arts laboratory. I face a long corridor a really long corridors I can feel water on my shoulders, its raining!

On my left I can see to women doing a live painting  on my right four men inviting women for a French back tour

What’s a French back tour?

I am now on the shoulders of David, afraid, not sure about safety. I will be guided by them, discovering this laboratory

I feel unstable but privileged, I experience a unique way of visiting a show

Is it a show? I am to confused to define the work in front of me

Installations, live, sound, architecture, discussions, party, performance, I am submerge by the pieces.

Sometimes I discover small groups of people watching a performance creating a sort a private tribunal network inside the space.

To late for this performance

You have to be at the right place at the right time

But it’s a huge space I get the impression that everything is in process nothing fix or set up.

Artist are here to try to interact says David.

Tomorrow the show will be different.

Each day allows a new step for the pieces.

I need to know more about the group

They are a Group of European emerging artist architect performers, daring to put themselves in question, they reinvent their making in a constant relation with the public.

Without introducing any particular themes or direction lines, the artists have previously worked together and created workshops and shows in France and in England.

In the underground space the artist will find themselves “under pressure” and will reveal the sensation of these dangerous positions.

Dangerous certainly, to experience as public and as artist

The most importance here is not the pieces that I have seen but the experience that I just lived, that they just lived

Art in my point of view is made by event, accident and experiences, where artists, architects and critics try to found their place. They need to know what they are supposed to do with this world around and to re-engage in a dialog about imagination, artistic creation and reality.

Art today is something to experience, something in this place and time defined by an artist.

In this sense, can we say that contemporary creation becomes performative?

At the shunt during this week certainly, we just need to know now what they are suppose to do with the rest of this experience.

And how they will reinvent and re-engage the process of making art?

Guest collaborators:

ORLAN,Guillaume PARIS.

Artists:

Joseph AMADO, Yvan ARGOTE, Pauline BASTARD, Maxime CHANSON, David CHARPENTIER, Julie CURTISS,Jeanne GARGAM, Dere GUM,Aymeric HAINAUX,Benjamin HERR,Hanna HUSBERG,Emeric LHUISSET,Marie LELOUCHE,Chloe THORNE,Iris TOULIATOU,Sarah TROUCHE,Mathe TVEITAN,Katia YESLI,

CCC,EYE’n’EAR.

 

Currated by Sarah Trouche 

Goldsmiths magazine article

winter catalogue

please have a look at: 

winter project

in the blog for the info on the catalogue 

deadline 15 december 

love 

S

hello dear

hi everyone
hope you are all doing well
after one big week of rest its time to work :):)

please start to select all your pictures to write your feelings about the project to questions yourself how did your project challenge your practise
i will send you soon a form to fill with some questions please answer and share your opinions on this experience

also start to things how do you want to share the project you had done ???
throught text croquis pictures etc
we gonna start working on the catalogue quite soon and i will ask you to definate yourself the way of showing the processsus of your project

thanks again to being part of this experience
love
Sarah

ps a blog page will be open soon for all your pictures etc

schedule change !!!!!!

hy everyone
the schedule change !!!
dont look at the performance time yet come to see me personaly for the new time (jo dav:7to8/aymeric10to11/me8:30to9)

also i need for this morning if you use video projector that you come and explain to me whats you gonna plug to what wich kind of sound etc come at shunt and show me after we will have a tour with techniques
to see how its workings etc
if you have a video projectors your image come from dvd or laptop etc ??????
i need for technical information

also big meeting with all the group of the shunt at 5h45 in the bar area
love
Sarah

2 guest per person per day!!!
i need the name before 3PM
when the list is close at 3pm you cant go to the door to ad name during the evening !!

schedule

dont forget

if you have a special project
with technical needs
water heavy staff etc
i need to have on paper your proposition for monday 9 am
dont forget that i represent your project to the shunt team
and that i need to have all the information
love
S

winter story

A WINTER STORY IN THE WILD JUNGLE HOTPOT MILK BETWEEN SHALLOW APPLE

SHUNT, 15 TO 18 OCTOBER ,LONDON,UK

winterstory.org



Guest collaborators,



ORLAN,Guillaume PARIS.



Joseph AMADO,Yvan ARGOTE,Pauline BASTARD,Maxime CHANSON,David CHARPENTIER,Julie CURTISS,

Jeanne GARGAM,Dere GUM,Aymeric HAINAUX,Benjamin HERR,Hanna HUSBERG,Emeric LHUISSET,

Marie LELOUCHE,Chloe THORNE,Iris TOULIATOU,Sarah TROUCHE,Mathe TVEITAN,Katia YEZLI,

CCC,EYE'n'EAR.



Curating by Sarah Trouche



Shunt

Deep in the tuinnels

Under London Bridge Station

15-18 october 2008

Wenesday,Thursday,

Friday and Saturday

Doors open from 6pm

To 11 pm (Wed-Fri)

And from 8 pm to 11 pm (sat)



www.shunt.co.uk

www.winterstory.org



The Winter story involves a score group of emerging and established artists, architects and critics working cross-disciplined and being critically engaged to their production mode. Daring to put themselves in question, they reinvent their making in a constant relation with the public.

During the Frieze art fair , from 13 to18 October, artists from several European countries hidden underneath the vast London Tube network, at London Bridge station, will explore with a collaborative spirit various artistic processes and disciplines in the impressive space of the Shunt.

Collaboration, site, context and time specific will be their central connection point, that will transform the show as an unforeseeable and spontaneous event for the public though as in the background it purely remains a consideration about experimentation.

Without introducing any particular themes or direction lines, the artists have previously worked together and created workshops and shows in France and in England interrogating collaboration, transmission, collision, and contamination.

The shunt will be the perfect location for these exchanges, for a relational show in progress reinventing and appreciating art as a process. In that underground space the artist will find itself "under pressure" and will reveal the sensation of these dangerous positions.



ORLAN/Guillaume Paris

shrouder

MARIE LELOUCHE / SARAH TROUCHE

Theory of relativity and egg bar

How to decompose a gestural accumulation to make an experience of a motif.

MAXIME CHANSON / CHLOE THORNE

Diurne

Drawing into the space with a phosphorescent string in order to

desorientate the spatial percpetion of audience.

DERE GUM/HANNA HUSBERG

Dead zone (6CO2 + 12H2O + light → C6H12O6 + 6O2 + 6H2O)

sample of coccolithophores Portsmouth, England collected June 18th 2008

osmosed water pH 8,1 - 8,3, density 1,042 - 1,050, synthetic salt 58 g/kg (58 Pt), PhytoFood Nutrient, light 12h / day 1 W / liter of water A recreated microclimate provides the artificial conditions for the proliferation of coccolithophores, a specimen of

phytoplankton, responsible of algal blossoms and anoxic zones.

DERE GUM / BENJAMIN HERR / EMERIC LHUISSET

Mercenary international corporation TM

Increase in delinquency, the threat of terrorism, the clash of civilizations…

If you too, are afraid for your security, we are here for you!

Entrust your security to professionals.

JULIE CURTISS / DERE GUM / BENJAMIN HERR / KATIA YEZLI

Anima
Starting with the architecture of the place and reinventing a new mental space visually made visible around Shunt.


MARTHA TVEITAN / KATIA YEZLI

10/15

In response to recent events we provide a makeshift shelter with blankets, hot drinks, a place to share stories...

MARTHA TVEITAN / KATIA YEZLI
London Bridge Mystery (ongoing)

Most people have a story to tell about the London Bridge area, the River Thames and its murky water.
Real or fake. Read in tabloids, witnessed, dreamt, told by so and so.
Whatever the source we would like to hear your tale at Shunt or on our blog:

http://londonbridgemystery.wordpress.com/

HANNA HUSBERG / MARIE LELOUCHE

Variation in grey noise

Shunt becomes the immense sound box for playing with the impreciseness of sound.

JEANNE GARGAM / MARIE LELOUCHE

Into blows

A exploration of two limited blow's meetings.

JEANNE GARGAM / MARIE LELOUCHE

Dilatation

JULIE CURTISS / EYE 'n'EAR

Can see you/can hear you

CCC

Improvisation

(city composer's collective)is a London based free improvisation group, who met at city university.
They will place microphones and performers (flute, clarinet, electro, found objects...) in every part of the dark rooms and corridors of the shunt realms. The sound is picked up by the microphones and sent to a central computer where it is mixed and fed back into the space via speakers. After some time this will create feedback and build up a drone.

JULIE CURTISS / SARAH TROUCHE

Still, blue and bright in the air and falls in the reactor of the chain in reaction.

JULIE CURTISS / KATIA YEZLI

Live drawing

Drawing in progress throughout the week relying on the notion of proliferation and repetition reminiscent of doodles, automatic and unconscious mark making, creating large pattern as a result.

Joseph AMADO /DERE GUM
title: war is beautiful

collabrators: dere gum jozef amado possibly a translator

about: korean war, a two man tv show set up stories of korean war. translator translates everything into french. sometimes turkish sometimes korean.

material : text about war, i prepare. dere and i research possible projector..

duration: 24minutes.

title: silence is golden

collobratos: everyone us and the viewers

about: senses. turning of the hearing. walking around the gallery for 15 minutes with

mat. work headphones ( i have one, i can get more like 5)

duration: on going.

Iris Touliatou

"[a] place to drink lemonade and watch the sun set"

open to every artistic collaboration and scenario

scenography/space studies to host work in progress, shows and people passing by.

using leftovers and abandoned material in the space.

recycled every day.

Ivan Argote and Pauline Bastard

title /Art Fair



Contact information:

sarah.trouche@gmail.com

With the support of the Shunt ,Ambassade de France à Londres,eurobussexpress.

meeting monday morning 9 AM

hello shunt team

everyone arrives at different times
the meeting point is a 9 am (donc 9 h du matin) on monday in front of the small door of shunt
be on time because we will all go to a grab a cofee then to meet mischa at shunt
my english number is
+44 777 632 2522
i have no batterie write now hope its gonna be charge by monday

be on time please 9 am

have a good trip to london
love
sarah

Collider at La Generale

++++ for more pics of the show go to

http://www.atelierpier.com/atelier_pier/expositions.html


Katia

any questions?

Hi everyone!

Just to let you know that you can ask your questions about the Shunt week on the forum
http://shunt.aceboard.fr/index.php?login=320861

Don't forget first to register before sending a mess.

See u soon

Ben

COLLIDER

I want to thank again everybody for taking part in Collider, a rather intense workshop that we hope was also productive and creative.

Members of Winter Story, La Generale, Vmm, Donald Abad, Gwenola Wagon, Phillipe Baudelocque, and various members of the public.

Katia Yezli

COLLIDER BLOG NOW ONLINE!

Hello everybody,

A blog page with pictures of the Collider workshop at La Générale in Paris is now available.

Katia
x

SHUNT MEETING IN PARIS

dear all
we leaving on sunday !!!!
i need to see you all for a last meeting before the departure to london
tommorow wenesday 8 pm meeting au 182 rue lafayette metro louis blanc
bring something to drink and eat
also i will be here to answer your question and hopfully give you our flyer

for the one who dont know where to sleep
see with jeanne and jo
santa is already full
asweel look at couch surfing its a good way to sleep for free in london

there is yet
in jo place :dere david

in santa: marthe benj and hi
julie need to be confirm

in jeanne: marie

also be sure to get you bus ticket
60 eur aller retour
i am personally leaving sunday at 10 am with eurolines
coming back on monday 10 am

be sure to get your sunday to clean the space
also we need to see who want see the frieze maybe that hanna can take care of that ?

dont hesitate to contact me meeting tommorow wenesday at 8 pm
love
Sarah

FRIEZE

hey everyone!

are some of you interested in visiting the frieze during our london adventure? in case we are a group of 10 we could get a better price. (normal price is 20£ normal and 15£ student)

GROUPS of 10+ pay £11.25 incl. booking fee per person.

TIMES: Thu: 11am - 7pm.
Fri: 11am - 7pm.
Sat: 11am - 7pm.
Sun: 11am - 6pm.
(Last entry 1 hour before closing).

see you soon
hanna

diapos? ok!

oui, c'est super pour le lecteur de diapos. je les ai toujours et bien sur je ne les ai jamais regardé. aymeric

COLLIDER OPENING OF THE SHOW at 1pm!!!

Katia Yezli and Julie Curtiss, curators of Collider, are glad to invite you to the opening of the show Oct 4 at La Generale

1pm - Performance in front of La Generale (all invited to take part in it!)

115pm - Potluck Lunch, bring your own food and drinks (in the spirit of the show)

From 2pm - Series of Performances


A page with the works, pictures, videos... will soon be added to this blog in line with the conceptual framework and feeling of the show.

COLLIDER COLLIDER COLLIDER

FOR ALL THOSE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PART IN THE SHOW



THURSDAY AND FRIDAY INSTALLATION OF THE WORKS

SATRUDAY OPENING


AND BRING NEWSPAPERS MAGAZINES... WE NEED MORE REF FOR THE WALL POSTING.


SEE YOU ALL AT LA GENERALE!!

COLLIDER COLLIDER COLLIDER

WORKSHOP IN PROGRESS AT LA GENERALE

Today from 3pm : workshop in collaboration with vMM/various Material Management a group of dancers, musicians and artists.

And remember to bring elements for the wall posting.

See you later!!!

K

WORKSHOP GENERALE - COLLIDER

COLLIDER

WORKSHOP STARTING MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, AT 930 AM

AT LA GENERALE - ATELIER PIER

ADDRESS:

6 GRANDE RUE

92310 SEVRES

METRO: PONT DE SEVRES / LIGNE 9

PAF PAF PAF again

we will come also with a car to bring some material if you need
let me know if you have something you want
also i will buy some food for the group for the week end
do you have something that you really dont like !!!!!
help me for a particular list
the best is that you meet at 18H30 at the station gare du nord all together dont miss the train
i will not be there
then call me when you arrived at st erme and we will come to pick you
love
S

bring the word with your project !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PAF PAF PAF

hello all

lets go to paf !!!!
the train from gare du nord is at 18H47 from gare du Nord direction LAON then change to st Erme where PAF is
the confirmation list is
YVAN
PAULINE
EMERIC
MARIE
MOI
BENJ
KATIA
MARTHE
DERE
HANNA
SANTA
JULIE
MAXIME
DAVID


(NICO LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE COMING)

i just want reminber that the meeting will be at 22pm the friday night PRINT your form for the shunt!!!! and your collaborators
be ready to intriduce yours projects to the others

saturday ( free work with your collaborators time to experiment set up the project) 22PM meeting again a schedule for shunt

sunday last days schedule about event!!!!!!!

train to paris nord 17H29 from st erme to paris nord arrival 19 pm train price around 40 euros aller retour
the 2 nights at paf 33 euros


MONDAY WORKSHOP GENERALE COLLIDER !!!!!!
lot of love
Sarah

WINTER CATALOGUE

LAST FEW DAYS.... CLOSING SOON. PLEASE SEND THE FIRST 5 IMAGES, PHOTOS, BOOK COVERS, CONCEPTS OR TEXT... WHICH COME TO YOUR MIND AND MEANINGFUL TO YOU AND YOUR PRACTICE. NEED EVERYTHING BY SUNDAY/MONDAY SO I CAN WORK ON IT BEFORE PAF/GENERALE!!

MANY THANKS!!!

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR CONTRIBUTION!!!!!!!!!!!

Katia

WINTER CATALOGUE

Again I want to stress that we're working here on the idea/concept of a catalogue not trying to create a traditionnal exhibition catalogue. Not the point here. even if some of these materials might be used a later stage for the actual exhibition catalogue. Not sure if I m' being clear or making you even more confused. Anyway to use a fairly cliche expression, no pun intended, images sometimes speak louder than words. Sp look at some of the stuff I got in so far. Am getting some really good stuff. You can still contribute if I get everything by Sunday, I should still have some time to work this out before PAF and then La Generale.

Concerning image resolution don't worry about it for now. will ask you at a later stage whenever possible to send high res.

have fun

Katia

Pictures sample link

Look into the Architecture Workshop link it might give you an idea of what we are after.

http://pictsampl.blogspot.com/


cheers
K

Workshop Catalogue
The object of this workshop is to explore the idea of a work "in progress" within a collaborative creative process.

PART ONE:
DEADLINE: September 15
EMAIL: wintercatalogue@gmail.com

We will be experimenting with the idea of a catalogue and it's essential that everybody takes part in it (even for those who can't attend the second part of the workshop). It's also a preparatory stage before the actual "live" workshop which will be part of the residency at la Generale in Paris.

In this first stage we need you to send to the above email any images and texts/words that you think is relevant to your practice, your way of working, of starting a new work. Images and words in various formats: photo, fictional or real, news, poetry, drawing, diagram, book cover, quotes, words, names, thinkers, fictional character, a colour, a country, natural/artificial.... anyway whatever triggers your imagination, inspires you, resonates...there in the back of your mind ... We want to find out what lies behind the work, the practice, (in a constant state of flux/in progress) rather than the work itself. And try to pin down the "drives" behind it, and therefore what feeds the creative process going with it.

This should be done without trying too hard to come up with something coherent and structured. It's important to allow spontaneity and intuition, desire, drive...rather than think too much about it. It's more like the idea of a personal brainstorming (reaching out for something more akin to the unconscious). It's not about a portfolio structured and unified with a clear statement.

All these images and words that you will be providing can in turn be seen as various signs or fragments of a jigsaw or a patchwork, that will be assembled, ending up into a collective scrapbook, a mental map , a narrative. We will be connecting, intersecting, crossing, overlapping, and confronting all those elements as in a brainstorming. It's not going to end up as a list with different categories with each "artist" being represented with a corresponding section with the images/texts provided. Having in mind the image of a lab is also useful, with different ingredients being mixed together, and then see what happens, a bit like the creative process itself.

Katia

I would like to say sorry that the barn workshop never happen it got complicated as the barns are being sold. Sorry it didnt work out. See you all soon.
Santa x

oye oye IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!

bonjour a tous hello dear

i need a confirmation for few things


who s gonna be part of the shunt project 13 to 19 october 08 ????

if you are there you engage yourself to be there for the all week of the project in London
to work in collaboration
to be not affraid to challenge your practise and taking risk
to redefinate the process of making art pieces
to create new art piece for the project

also if you are part of the shunt group
i am organising a week end a PAF to permit you to intoduce with your collaborators your project for the shunt
and to take the time to work on it

and also to make the schedule for the all week with the event etc
its really important for the group that all the shunt participant make the effort to be at PAF the week end of the 26 to 28 september
i will send at the end of the week end a detail list with the name of the particiapnet the flyers
the programmation in London for the communication

my list for the participation is

Pauline
ivan
moi
marie
benj
dere
santa
marthe
katia

i believe that you will be more !! send me your name and your confirmation for the both event PAF and SHUNT


also

i received also only the confirmation for the generale project of 29 to 5 october

ivan
moi
pauline
benj
julie
marthe
dere
katia

???????

please confirm before FRIDAY 5 september

if any questions
best
Sarah

xx

thanks for your proposal ,book the dates !!!!

Dear All
i want thanks all of you for your proposal for the 104 residency
now we just have to cross the finger :)
if you have any recommandatiob letter to send me
from Artist teacher etc dont hesitate!!


please keep your dates of the week end of the 26 september
26,27,28 september we are goin to a residency at PAF to work on the shunt show
then the week of the 28 to sunday 5 october we are inviting by La Generale for a workshop show
curated by Curtiss Julie and myself

if really important to be there for the week end at PAF we have a lot of work to do

and send me confirmation at sarah.trouche@gmail.com for the week end
and availablility for the week of the 28 to 5 at the general at sevres

for the londonersor osloners :) we can welcome you at home

cant wait to see you all
all the best
Sarah

Exquisite Corpse

I did this screenwriting workshop in London and to get us going (this was in a way a creative writing workshop within the structures of a screenplay) the first thing we were asked to do was to write about our journey from wherever we came from to our current location. In this instance it might be interesting for example to hear about people getting lost on their way to Shunt as it's such an awkward place to find. Knowing the itinerary might also shed a light on who is coming to such an event. And having as a starting point the viewer's own subjectivity we can carry on from there with their first impressions of the space and the ongoing events... possibly as Marthe suggested with digital pics to upload... Could use those intineraries at a later stage and translate them visullay into a map or a diagram... to be update otherwise on a regular basis online... or to be included in the catalogue of the show....

Katia

EXQUISITE CORPSE

Hi Martha,

I was also thinking of doing a text based piece for Shunt. Thinking more in terms of the words and expressions in the news around the time we would be working in Shunt.

Open to your idea too.

You're right we also need a programmer.

will write more soon

Katia

104 form DEADLINE SUNDAY 10 AUGUST

dear all 

dont forget to fill and send me your proposal for the 104 (residency programme)

send me the proposition throught the word in my email sarah.trouche@gmail.com

the people who will not make a proposition will not be part of this project 

and i thinks that its a great project !!!!

its an application we dont know if its gonna work but it might work 

for the paris people we organizing a meeting saturday at 7 pm close to the tube anvers 

to put on paper all ours idears 

for the londoners who didnt have yet send the form please be sure to be on time 

thanks for all who have already done it its gonna be great :)

lots of kisses 

Sarah

104

hello everyone and greetings from Istanbul!

I've been thinking about the projects for 104 and I think I'd like to do some kind of a workshop with elderly people living in the area. For now I'm just starting to think about it and I wanted to know if anyone else would be interested in organizing something?

I often find myself observing old people in the street and in the busses. I've been living a long time in Paris, but still I don't actually know any elderly people in the city, I haven't got any family there and I'm really very little in contact with them.

And there's something quite strange which I notice sometimes. Sometimes it seems as if the old got invisible, people pay very little attention to them, they are not active in the society, not usefull and end up really lonely. I see lots of little old crazy women dressed up with makeup all over their face in the street not really knowing what to do..

I'd like to do a workshop over a period of time, enough to get to know the participants, to organize diners and why not some dancing and to create something together. What i myself think of would be filming them, maybe asking them to tell stories of their lives or made up stories, work with their dreams and create something around them, play with their fanatasies and with all of which they are deprived (sexuality for example).

I would be mostly interested in working with them as performancers but I'm really open to any ideas. If any of you would be interested let me know, let's get our ideas together.

baci
hanna

Exquisite Corps Audience Participation

Since our Winterstory project evolves loosely around “work in progress” I’ve appropriated an idea for an artwork that I saw in an exhibition in London this spring. Some of you might have seen the exhibition, it was at the White Cube and the name of the show was “You dig the tunnel. I’ll hide soil” – it was based on the writings of Edgar Allen Poe. The work which rationale I intend to appropriate (ok, I know some of you would call it outright stealing, but creativity breeds creativity so I’ll just pretend to not hear the protests) was situated in the basement of Shoreditch Townhall, it had a room to itself and took the shape of a computer placed on a table with a chair in front of it.

The art work consisted in a computer programme which allowed members of the audience to participate in the writing of a novel in the style of Edgar Allen Poe. The computer screen first introduced the audience member to the project which was based on the exquisite corps concept, and then invited visitors to participate. Each writer had the last two or three sentences of the last entry presented to them on the computer screen before they were allowed to write their own piece continuing where the last writer left off. After finishing an entry between 200 and 400 words each writer gave their full name and address to the computer in order for this magnificent machine to send them a copy of the published novel when printed. Of course wrote an entry, but I haven’t received my book yet.

I was thinking we could have one of our Winter-stories produced using the same rationale. We could set up a computer in the Shunt which allowed people to respond to our project in some way. I’m not sure yet whether we should ask visitors to write a novel entry or something else. Maybe we could invite people to write down their responses to our show (the traditional guest book thing) or maybe they could write down a scene from an everyday life that we could use for later performances or maybe they could recommend a good book. I’m just presenting some options. Maybe we could let visitors choose between, say three categories in which to produce a small piece of writing. Maybe they should even be allowed to upload a digital image from their cameras if they’ve brought one.

After the end of the show we could either make a publication in print (expensive) or publicize it on the Internet. (People have to agree to their texts and possible images being publicized, although names is probably not a good idea to publish)

Such a “game” would be in line with the “work in progress” theme we’re working on. I’m sure audience participation would be appreciated in the Shunt collective too. Anyway, I’m interested to know what you think of this idea. As I am no programming expert myself, I cannot be expected to handle such a project by myself. I will need some help from you guys.

Oh, and I’m planning on finishing my text on the Paris workshop by the end of this week. I’ll have to do it while working (as in making money) so if it’s not ready by Friday afternoon, don’t be too disappointed. In any case you can find it on www.junglestories.wordpress.com sooner or later. The URL is the site of my newly born blog which will be where I publish texts related to the Winterstory. Ok, that was a long entry. Take care y’all.

Marthe

oye oye grant help!!!!!!!! IMPORTANT READ!!!!

dear everyone
i am actually fighting with grant sheme and i need your help to finish some of them

1 santa your cv fr english and statement plus 2 picture no pdf please
2 emeric the same for you with the fr version too
3 any idear or proposition for the 104 in france
to apply we need to have some proposition about workshop lectures event etc site specific and in the area
please write around one page per idear and be the more precise
i have a special blog that i will fill with all this idears and a pdf about the collectif in general

your idear must be set up as

1 title,
2 how are you cv photo(make it short),
3 what is it?objectif why,particpant?(public artist both)
4 how long (week end more )
5 where (precisely in the 104 and other possiblility if not available
6 material equipement need etc

please send me your propositions with this order
and One propositions minimum per personne in the group!!!!
you can work with a team per project i need at least 10 idears concrete
dealine the 7 of august
i cant organise a brainstorming because everyone is away
if you are in paris let me know we can organise one with few of us and the other will send their propositions by email

also
have a look at
that

# projects exploring a wide spectrum of European diversity: from the co-existence of traditions and peoples in one place, to migration movements and new urban, globalised diversity.
# Projects reflecting on Europeanness and European developments in an innovative way: we need artists to comment, research, question, imagine and visualise what is happening in European societies, in the cities, within and between communities, across and beyond European borders.
# Projects involving an innovative creative process and a visible end product: we are looking for artistic impressions, ideas, answers, works on how Europe should/could relate to the diversity in its communities.
# Projects which will have a legacy for the future, which will make a sustainable impact: one-off projects may still be eligible, provided they can demonstrate a vision for a lasting impact in their context.

can you write few lines about it
in the context of the shunt exibition and the collectif in the future
the questions will be:
how can we explore the wide spectrum of europeen diversity ....
how can we reflect europeen development.....
etc

please take it seriously ..........
i cant answer to all this questions by myself

i also expect that you appropriate yourself the project and make a lot of propositions

i am not here to propose you shows or event !!!!!!

and i will not if you dont investigate yourself in the project
in the sense to be here when things hapening
and share idears contact project with others

collective meant putting idears and network together to give us the possibility to make changes in the way of working and to get more opportunity

but its "Donnant donnant" as we say in french :)

cant wait to see all yours propositions
dont be affraid everything is welcome !!!!

huge kisses
SArah

LONGPLAYER A WORK IN PROGRESS

JEM FINER's Longplayer
www.longplayer.org

1 January 2000 – 31 December 2999
Trinity Buoy Wharf Lighthouse, 64 Orchard Place, London E14

A thousand-year musical composition, it will play continuously and without repetition from 1 January 2000 until its completion on 31 December 2999.

Longplayer is an attempt to make sense of such a span of time. Emanating from one present moment into the unfolding future of the next thousand years, it provides a projection of growth and change.

Through an exploration of generative forms of music, rooted in the fields of artificial life and complexity, Jem Finer has developed a system which results in an ever-evolving piece of music.
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Katia

Someone might be interested in this performance workshop in Essen (Germany)

IMPACT 08

http://www.pact-zollverein.de/english/workingfields/impact/impact.html

It will be almost direct after the shunt project, 2-4 November
I was there last year and it was interesting, it´s a good place.
Last day for applying is 22nd of september
Jennifer

Lawrence Weiner

Lawrence Weiner working mostly with text sometimes using the web.

on Ubu Web...
http://www.ubu.com/concept/weiner_tracce.html

and on another site
www.adaweb.com/project/homeport


Katia

A favour to ask

Dear all,

I'm sorry I have been massively subdued in the last weeks, but currently I am preparing my application for an art residency in Amsterdam and feel as if I was preparing for a final show, so I am stressed shitless, anyway the barn workshop looks amazing don't you think? So I hope to see you soon and once August has arrived I will participate in our blog activities again, right now I've just got too much work argh anyway I saw on the 'what happened' in Paris bit that there was one photo of Glen and me as parasite Cyborgs, and I was wondering who has got the photos or film footage of it - please could you send me four or more photos/stills of it as soon as possible, as I would like to include it in my portfolio - I would appreciate it a lot, actually it would make me feel like a dolphin out in the sea, a happy dolphin, a dolphin in love, anyway my email address is: spacecheck@gmail.com

and have a look at this link

http://www.blublu.org/sito/video/muto.htm

Franek

104

hi also just made the application for the 104
http://www.104.fr/#fr/

brainstorming

Hi Everyone
i would like to do a sort of brainstorming about
"work in progress"
if you can share article photos videos anything which can help to definite
whats a works in progress ?
whats for? the limits of it?
for the people who are in Paris i propose to meet you and to thinks about it together maybe this week end if you are free
let me know
kisses
Sarah

Art Press/Art as Experimentation

There is also an interesting article on Art Press: Art as experimentation. You can download the first article of the series as a PDF. website:http://www.art-press.fr/index.php?a_n=6&lang_uk=

Katia

Experiment in Collaboration

I wanted to bring to your attention this experimental collaborative project I came across, which is hosted by the Jerwood Space in London, and which bears some similarities with our own project.

Here is an introduction on their blog:
An Experiment in Collaboration looks at the intricacies of artists operating as part of a team or partnership, laying bare the process and opening it up to scrutiny. The ongoing project is collaborative on every level: curator, writers, design team, artists and associates, share ideas, negotiate changes and make decisions about possibilities and outcomes.

An Experiment in Collaboration forms part of the Jerwood Visual Arts series of exhibitions and initiatives to support and promote emerging talent. 6 artists were invited to choose a collaborator to work with and to submit proposals for an experimental project that looked at the process of collaborative practice including:

http://www.experimentincollaboration.blogspot.com/

Katia

Is there anybody out there?

Hello everyone!

Long time no news. Everyone's already left for summer?

What about the barn workshop? Is it advancing? Who actually proposed it? Please sign so that people know who's proposing what ;)

I think it would be good to meet up with the people who are still in town (I'm talking about Paris, but feel free to do likewise anywhere you please) to know what's going on. Anyone up for it?

xxx
Hanna

Arhh how do I edit my post its full of silly spelling? Sorry.

Ok there is five different barns there hope you get the idea. x

Proposal for workshop

Just outside Battle in East Sussex (about an hour and twenty mins. outside of London) I have some old barns we could use as a site for a workshop. I would not be able to sleep everyone thought but we could camp? There is a lot of wood lane and fields we could use to. I like the idea of working together with no pressure at the end but there is literally only space, barn structures and electricity here. I could get some bands to play and we could have a small party on one night. I don’t know guys what to you think? I am scared we are all going to make Andy Goldsworthy impersonations. Some pictures of the site bellow. Please let me know what you think.

Paris Workshop: Experiments

Here are some snapshots from the Paris workshop last weekend. This is what it looks when artists meet architects for some truly innovative experimenting;)Enjoy!
And hey, I want to see some photos from the exhibition!

Psycho building exhibition

Hi all,

If you re lacking of ideas for the workshop this week end you can always have a look at the psycho building exhibition on at the Hayward gallery at the moment, or at the website! http://www.haywardgallery.org.uk/
see you soon x

jeanne

workshop

Hi!!!!

Here are two links:
_ to know a bit more about F.ROCHE : here
_ to have a look at a few picture samples about architecture : here

See you soon!!!

Benj

ANOTHER BLOG LINK

Hello
while waiting impatiently for the workshop at the school of architecture...
you're welcome to visit my newborn blog
dedicated to a fanzine edition project in progress!
THE ELEVATOR will come where and when you need it!
best
Iris

WORKSHOP - ARCHITECTURE

Hi there!

Here you will find the link of our little webpage about the next workshop in Paris (link)
It will be nice to all of you to confirm your presence at this email address
workshop.ENSAPVS@gmail.com

Think to bring with you some elements you would like to work with in HUGE Quantities.
(because we have to invade the space)
If you want more info do not hesitate to contact dere or me.

See you soon

Ben

workshop and show experimental architecture

dear all
who is part of the workshop please confirm your presence for this week end

benjamin will send to you more infos about the project and some research to do
but i need to know exactly who s gonna be there

here is my list

let me know if its not correct please

Julie
Sarah
Dere
Benj
Maxime
Iris
Katia
Marie
Yvan
Pauline
Jeanne
Jo
Franek
Marthe
Santa
Hanna
Aymeric

if youre not on the list and if you want be part of the project please send me an email asap

just to remember that the workshop is a three days workshop
friday evening saturday and sunday monday we set up the show
at 7 pm there is a lecture by Francois Roche architect follow by the opening at 8 pm with performances i hope and drinks
the show finish three days later
3 days making 3 days showing

Bruuns Bizarre Exhibition

To whoever is stuck in London with nothing to do,

I have recently been to this little exhibition by Alexis Harding and Laura Buckley and damn did I enjoy it, yes yes hell yeah, well it was really fun and inspiring, so go to the attached link and le voila you have some info concerning it and most importantly the directions... I also shot some footage of Laura Buckley's installations, which are pretty ingenious, and took a couple photos of Alexis Harding's paintings which some people claimed reminded them of old wrinkly vaginas, erm I hope only in my nightmares on acid, well I still have one grandma so I do not really want to think that far but the textures were great and I felt tempted to touch but ooooouuuuffff thank god someone mentioned old wrinkly vaginas, anyway I have included some material but it's like with your Mama's cakes, they are much much better than the ones from a shop so don't be fooled and better check it out in reality... check out the real thing, you're worth it!

and if you skip Glastonbury this year then you should check out the site below for fun and games and flash mobs and public art and mayhem and serious extravaganza

http://www.hideandseekfest.co.uk/

Franek

P.S.: "My colour has never looked so real" (in the voice of Penelope Cruz) - awethome!

CONDENSATION BOX/Open Systems

Hans Haacke
CONDENSATION CUBE (1963)
Plexiglas, water. 76 x 76 x 76 cm


Work related to the Open Systems essay below.

Katia

Open Systems/THEORY ESSAY

Open Systems: Rethinking Art c.1970

Building upon the structures and systems of Fluxus, Neo-Concretism, Minimalism and Conceptualism, all of the artists included here are linked by their use of a generative or repetitive system as a way of redefining the work of art, the self and the nature of representation. This book traces some of the ways in which these artists drew parallels between their aesthetic systems and those of the real world.

At first glance, Hans Haacke's Condensation Cube 1963-5 may seem deceptively simple. First shown at the Howard Wise Gallery in New York, it is a sealed Perspex box, 30 x 30 x 30 centimetres, containing a small amount of water. As light enters, the cube warms and the water within condenses on its interior walls, collecting at the bottom to perpetuate the process. Initially, Haacke was involved with an analysis of physical and biological systems, including living plants and animals, and the physical states of water and wind.

Condensation Cube is just one of a series of works the artist produced in the early 1960s combining technological with organic processes to make visible the physical forces of nature. Haacke's cube bears only a passing resemblance to the reductive Minimalist structures of the 1960s, but also reflects his involvement with the Zero group, established in Dusseldorf by Otto Piene (b. 1928) and Heinz Mack (b. 1931), and later Gunther Uecker (b. 1930). The group was interested, as Haacke has said, 'in light and phenomena and reflection, and motion, and also works that were taking place with a public outside of the gallery space'.17

Although a sealed structure, Condensation Cube is entirely dependent upon its ambient surroundings: light and temperature directly influence the process of condensation happening within, placing viewer and work in real time and space. As artist and critic Jack Burnham wrote: 'Traditionally, artworks exist in "mythical time", that is in an ideal historical timeframe separated from the day-to-day events of the real world. Some systems and conceptual artists, such as Haacke, attempt to integrate their works in the actual events of the "real world", that is the world of politics, money-making, ecology, industry, and other pursuits.'18 The phenomenologically-based practices of Minimalism, which required the viewer to navigate the spaces around and within works, also placed the viewer in real time and space. They became implicated in an interconnected system of objects in space, engaged in perceptual changes as they moved around the objects. The objects themselves, however, remained materially stable, whereas Haacke now added instability, allowing him to 'make something which experiences, reacts to its environment, changes, is nonstable'.


PS: If you want the whole essay taken from that book I could email it to you. Katia

I am going to go to this anyone else fancy it? 

Punctuation Programme:

You are invited to 'Proposal for a show in 3 years or so' an event organised by Sara Nunes Fernandes.

Open Thursday 5 June 2008, 6-9pm

'Proposal for a show in 3 years or so' is a draft for a possible exhibition. Resembling an open-studio situation, the artists- Nina Morgenstern, Mina Wakeford and Aaron Tan - their work and the viewers share a space that is under construction. The program offers the gallery artists and the people around them a site to try out ideas.

It is at Limoncellos, Hoxton.

Santa

Tuesday Evening

Hi all,

A Small post to tell you that there is a nice concert on Tuesday. Arthur's first symphonic piece will be played, and another friend of mine will play a Mozart Piano Concerto.
It is in Paris, close to Saint Sebastien Froissart, Rambuteau, ou Fille du Calvaires... 12 rue du Perche (angle rue Charlot), Rambuteau. It starts at 20h30. The price is 10 or 12 €, (will try to have also free invitations, but nothing is guaranteed).

Let me know if you wanna join...

Romain

P.S: Sarah, if you have time, that would be a good moment to see precisely what Arthur does.

SALLE D'EXPERIMENTATION for workshop in school of architecture

hello...

these are some images of SALLE D'EXPERIMENTATION for workshop in paris...

don't hesitate to ask us (benj and me) on forum for more information...

see you soon...

++

dere...

mon cherrie(s)

aloha everyone,

first, french posts i can not read, i am hoping and wishing that its meant that way. i met everyone and everyone speaks wonderful english. at least maybe translate stuff dont know..
as of today, jeanne santa franek and i and i, thats me are coming to build the eifell tower again. dates are set, tickets are bought excitement in the air..

monday london group is meeting at hobgoblin @ 20.02. parisians are welcome as well, just jump on a bus hahahah...
will post the statement for the talking workshop in chinese so nobody will understand..
ok ni how?
jozef

paintball

Paintball :
date:dimanche 1 juin de 13h à 16h (il est souhaitable d'arriver à l'heure sans quoi vous risquez de ne pas pouvoir jouer).
prix:29 euros par personne (tout compris).
Lieu:2bis rue victor hugo à boissy l'aillerietrain direct de Paris saint Lazare à la gare de boissy l'aillerie (prévoir 45min)le site de paintball est juste derrière la gare, c'est un site couvert.

Merci de me dire si vous venez ou pas afin que je puisse confirmer la réservation.
Si vous avez d'autre questions vous pouvez m'appeler au 06 98 13 07 90
A bientôt
Emeric

new web site

dear all 

we have a brand new web site 

please have a look 

at http://winterstory.org

thanks a lot to Yvan 

best 

sarah

collaboration avec julie

une petite image de mon reperage du jour je t envois la suite demain j y retourne a maree basse le coef sera faible en juin mais ca devrait faire l affaire j adore cet sorte de pont on peut peut etre faire quelque chose avec sachant que l on aura basoin d un point d appuis car la vase reste proche des sable mouvant cela peut etre dangereux sans accroche de securite 

bisous

collaboration avec julie

Workshop and show experimental architecture

Dear All 

we are please to annouce the next workshop then show at the School of Architecture Paris Val de Seine curated by Dere Gum and benjamin Herr 

the date are friday 6 to monday 9 (opening)

the workshop is constitute of one day the friday night lectures then saturday sunday workshop and monday show set up to friday end of the show 

please book the dates 6 to 10 june

this show will involve the winterstory group only and the same amount of architecte 

i need a presence confirmation of everyone who wish to attend the show 

kisses 

Sarah

Winter news

dear all

i want say that i am really glad about this last week end in london

thanks a lot for the londoners for your hospitality and yours workshop propositions

now it s time to thinks write and share with others about this last week end !!!!!!!!!

half of the group was present around 16 personnes and we can see already the potentiel of this project

the next workshop will take place in france you will know the date at the end of the week end

but thanks to dere and benjamin the workshop then the show will happen :)

then i will ask yvan and pauline to do the necessary for their workshop during the open studio at ensba

and julie for montreuil give us date confirmations etc we need to know

it is a really nice opportunity for all of us and a rare occasion to cross us practise with architect

the workshop is open to the winterstory group only and a same amount of architect (30 TO 50 personn in total)

i must say that i hope that all the personn will do the maximum to be there

and more to the personn not present last week end in london we want to see you guys!!!!!!!!

its a collaborative and ongoing project that mean that if you dont participate even for good reason diploma etc

you will not have the posibility to be part of the project in october for obvious reasons

A bon entendeur salut :)

i am please to announce the creation of a forum of discussion in the blog

keep posted share again

you just have to register and its done

now a short recap of what happen last week end

depart 11 pm arrivée 6 pm the sarturday morning

saturday

breakfest in jeanne place then a nap for everyone in the different house

1pm break fest again this time at a terrerasse then visit of some galleries on east london

5pm meeting at the Shunt discovers of the space and the door first pictures discussions

6 pm meeting of sarah with vanessa curator of the live at tate

7pm dinner in from of the thames in a garden close to some drunk pirates

10 pm Shunt again durin the night with public till late

sunday

wake up early to early for me :)

breakfest then meeting at goldsmith

jo s workshop starts round circle and questions (jo please send us your statement about it and your impression )

joce workshop start performative workshop (joce " " " " )

then lunch again in a terrasse

franek workshop in the field benhind the school (video workshop) " " " " )

everyone is exausted we finish at the hobgobelin pub :):):):)

sarah meeting with romain

birhtday candle for arthur benjamin and the gost of max

back to the house quick packing then bus again to paris

cant wait to heard from you on the blog and forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

all the best

kisses

Sarah

"a small thought about romain whos defending our project at the french ambassy good luck"

A NEW FORUM IS BORN!!!!

I am pleased to inform you we now have a forum you can find just here ________________________________>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You just have to register ( on the main page) before creating topics etc.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you need help doing this.


Thanks again for this very nice sunny londonian week end..

Benjamin

Missed workshop

Hi everyone,

sorry I was not able to make it to London last weekend and meet you all. Looking forward to hearing about the workshop.

I will most probably be in London sometime in June so I hope I'll be able to meet at least some of you there and if the timing is good maybe join a meeting or a workshop.

anyway I'll keep you posted.

take care

Katia

That was meant to say good.

Love Santa

Sorry I didnt come back to the workshop everyone I didnt feel to go. It was so great to meet you all though. 

Space is booked at Goldsmiths

Hello,

I have asked for a room to be booked at the Graduate School on Sunday from 11am - 4pm, but I fear that security will want us to leave around 3pm. Well surely we can always squeeze some more minutes out of them, anyways the address is:

Graduate School
Goldsmiths, University of London
Hatcham House
17-19 St James'
London SE14 6NW

It is very easy to find, its the road by the 'Cow recycling bins' which you cannot miss if you walk, cycle or drive along New Cross Road, it's literally only a minute from New Cross Gate station. There is also a sign that says "Graduate School" but maybe we should meet outside to quarantee that no one will be lost, so just go where you see someone standing that you have already seen at the Shunt the night before...

I wish the french crew a safe journey and see you all this saturday

Franek

P.S.: there are a couple of things that need to be addressed:

a) i feel that communication is still quasi non-existent and I believe that one of the reasons for it is that people still connect mainly via emails instead of really using the blogg - I thought that we should all switch to the blogg in order to have a documentation of the process' process.

b) I do not see the point to stress the importance of sending a pdf file "as soon as possible" if another 40 or more days pass by in which some people's profile or even their name is still missing on our website - also I haven't received any response to my emails addressed to the 'communication people' yet, what's the point then?

London

Hey there everyone!

I'm coming to London tonight with my friend Ema. I haven't been in touch directly with any of you Londoners but I'd love too. So from 8.45pm tonight I'm in London, and I'd love to meet any of you whenever there's a possibility, so pls don't hesitate to contact me if you're going to some vernissage or just hanging out or anything.

my phone is +33661664556
you can send me a sms or something if you want to get in touch

hoping to see you soon
hanna

eurolines

pour les parisiens, où nous donnons nous rendez-vous pour le bus de vendredi? Emeric, as tu vu pour les tickets de groupe?
aymeric

LONDON calling (notes from prep meeting)

Notes on May 5th meeting at Hobgoblin, New Cross Gate, LONDON
Jeanne, Franek, Kasper and Jo attended.

hello everyone,

first sarah asked the schedule for the weekend and here it goes:

saturday

morningish parisians arrive:
(everybody will be staying at new cross, with jeane, franek and i) drop of bags. especially emerics slide and free until the evening dinner. by free i am supposing that you want to go around to galleries etc. so we will hang out.
note: jeane is working, kasper is in seminar etc..

6ish Dinner at nandos in london bridge. we decided we should be close(in walking distance to Shunt, and Nandos is a good option, why not)

8ish -shunt, i am not sure of the nature of the performace/event in shunt. sarah plesea specify the time that we need to be at shunt.


SUNDAY

11am- start. we will be around goldsmiths for almost all of the workshop. (jocelyn and franek are resposible to find rooms.)

until 5pm we have workshops. i dont want to ruin the suprises for you. we will have 4 workshops hopefully and we should be done at 5pmish depending on your bus. but have a pint before you go at hobgoblins i guess..

also we need to talk a little bit of business as well as workshops.
issues needing to be adressed:
-sponsors, grants, whats is done, what needs to be done
-communication blog or no blog. in general how to overcome lack of communication.
-pdf situation: for some reasons some londoners dont have profiles etc..
-anything else...

ok. anyquestions comments..
take care, bybye